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What if the thing holding you back isn’t strategy or burnout at all, but stored trauma in your nervous system?
In this episode, Samantha Riley sits down with Dr. Natalie Green, a Post-Traumatic Growth Coach who helps high-achieving leaders move from silent struggle to embodied confidence.
Together, they unpack the hidden trauma so many coaches and consultants carry, the kind that doesn’t come from a single event, but from years of stress, overgiving, and pressure to perform. You’ll learn how these unresolved patterns quietly shape how we lead, show up, and grow in business, and what it actually takes to shift from coping to thriving.
This isn’t a heavy conversation, but a deeply human one. Dr. Natalie shares science-backed yet soulful tools to reconnect your head, heart, and gut,` and explains why true leadership begins when you stop bypassing your pain and start listening to your body’s wisdom.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, out of alignment, or like you’re doing everything “right” but still not seeing the growth you want, this episode will show you why, and how to finally get back into flow.
Because when you heal what’s happening beneath the surface, everything in your business, your clarity, confidence, and creativity begins to expand.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL DISCOVER:
- Why traditional therapy keeps people stuck (and what to do instead)(01:42)
- The hidden cost of empathy and how other people’s stories overload your system (09:07)
- Rethinking trauma and how every business owner has unprocessed stress that affects confidence, creativity, and visibility (12:52)
- How people-pleasing and perfectionism are signs of unprocessed stress (18:30)
- A simple 5-minute practice to reconnect your head, heart, and gu (22:01)
- Using TRE (Trauma Release Exercises) to regulate your nervous system (28:42)
- How to stop anxiety spirals and come back to safety in seconds (33:07)
- Transforming past pain into embodied leadership so you can shine unapologetically (35:14)
Want alignment as you scale? Let’s chat.
RESOURCES:
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Table of Contents
The Real Reason You’re Stuck (And It’s Not Your Strategy)
When Hustle Meets a Dysregulated Nervous System
The Unseen Weight You’re Carrying
The Real Reason You’re Stuck (And It’s Not Your Strategy)
Most business owners aren’t really short on strategy. You’ve got your funnels, your frameworks, your content calendars. You’ve worked with the coaches, taken the courses, and followed the formulas.
So why does it still feel like you’re pushing a boulder uphill? Why are you second-guessing yourself, over-giving, or quietly burning out behind the scenes while everyone else seems to have it “together”?
The truth is, your nervous system might be running your business, not your strategy.
When Hustle Meets a Dysregulated Nervous System
You can’t out-plan, out-hustle, or out-mindset a body that’s in survival mode.
When your nervous system is overloaded (from stress, anxiety, or years of emotional strain) your brain doesn’t care about your marketing goals. It cares about keeping you safe.
That “safety mode” might look like procrastination, perfectionism, or people-pleasing. It might show up as overthinking every post or replaying a conversation you had with a client on loop.
Or maybe it’s that invisible weight you can’t quite name, the one that keeps you feeling “off” even when things are technically fine.
The thing is, it’s not weakness. It’s wiring.
The Unseen Weight You’re Carrying
Trauma isn’t just about “big” events. It’s also the small, consistent stresses that stack up over time. You know, that lost deal, the public criticism, the tough client, the pandemic uncertainty, even the financial rollercoaster.
You don’t need to have lived through something dramatic to carry emotional residue in your system. If you’re a coach or consultant, you probably feel other people’s emotions deeply, and you’ve likely absorbed some of them along the way.
That’s why your exhaustion sometimes feels disproportionate because you’re not just tired – you’re actually holding things that aren’t even yours.
How To Regulate and Reset
The good news is, you don’t have to live stuck in overdrive. You can re-teach your body what safety feels like.
Here are a few ways to start:
1. Check in with your three brains — head, heart, and gut
Each holds a different kind of wisdom.
When you’re stuck in your head, you’re overanalysing. When your heart’s shut down, you disconnect from others. When your gut’s off, you stop trusting yourself.
Take a minute to scan your body. Where do you feel tension, pressure, or weight? Just noticing reconnects you to your system.
2. Practice micro-regulation
You don’t need a full hour of meditation to calm your body. Just try a 60-second “reset.”
Slow your breathing, notice your surroundings, and remind yourself: “It’s [day], [time], I’m here, I’m safe.”
This pulls your nervous system out of panic and back into the present.
3. Shake it out — literally
Your body has a built-in stress release mechanism through trembling. Ever notice how animals do it naturally after getting scared?
Try gentle shaking and stretching after a stressful call or day. It helps release trapped energy instead of storing it.
4. Honour your energy boundaries
If you’re constantly absorbing your clients’ emotions, protect your energy.
Make it a habit to visualise a clear boundary before client sessions and intentionally release energy afterward. Empathy is powerful, but without boundaries, it becomes a burden.
Healing Is the Strategy
When you regulate your nervous system, you don’t just feel better – you show up differently.
You sell with clarity instead of fear.
You create content from confidence, not comparison.
You make decisions from alignment, not anxiety.
And that’s the real growth edge for coaches and consultants right now. Not another funnel, but a grounded nervous system that can actually hold the success you’re building.
Because when you heal what’s beneath the surface, your clarity, creativity, and confidence expand.
What happens is, you don’t just lead better. You become the kind of leader others feel safe to follow.
So, are you ready to shift from overextended to aligned? Start by regulating your nervous system, and watch how everything in your business starts to flow again.
ABOUT DR. NATALIE GREEN
Dr Nat Green is a Trauma Breakthrough Coach, bestselling author, and host of Growing Tall Poppies. Drawing on 35 years in psychology and lived experience, she helps coaches and purpose-driven leaders identify and rewire old patterns that limit growth using her ABS Method® and Archetypes of Transformation, unlocking authentic growth and impact in business and life.
WHERE TO FIND DR. NATALIE GREEN
- Website: https://drnataliegreen.com.au/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-green-36281918/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrNatalieGreen
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drnatgreen/
- X: https://x.com/ABS_Nat
CONNECT WITH SAMANTHA RILEY
TRANSCRIPTION
Dr Natalie Green 00:00
Whether you’re a coach, professional business owner, if you are someone who feels deeply the same as I do, then you hear people’s stories, and it doesn’t just go in one ear and out the other. Some part of it stays somewhere in your nervous system. And each thing builds up and builds up and builds up, we are carrying stuff that probably isn’t ours, and until we can learn how to let go of that or make sense of it, we aren’t going to get the results that we want in our business or in our life.
Samantha Riley 00:34
I’m Samantha Riley, and welcome to the business growth lab, where visionary entrepreneurs come to experiment, evolve and expand what’s possible.
Samantha Riley 00:49
Welcome to today’s episode of Business Growth Lab. I’m your host, Samantha Riley, and we are going to cover a topic today that I don’t think is going to be fun and light from the beginning, although I know we have a lot of fun chatting with Dr NAT green today, but we’re going to talk about trauma. She’s a post traumatic growth coach, and I have specifically asked her to come on the show today because I am seeing so many people right now in business that are holding themselves back. Some people don’t even realize it’s in their blind spot. Some people are fully aware, but there’s some really big stuff going on under the surface, and I think that if we can acknowledge this and move through it, we can all get out there in such a bigger way and shine our lights so dr, Nat green, thank you for coming on the show today. Thank you so much for having me. Samantha, I have heard so much about you for so long. And likewise, oh my goodness, I’ve heard about you for years. So to actually meet you, I was actually, like, so excited this morning, and then to realize that you were Australian, like, I was like, yay. We’re chatting at the same time on the same day. This is really unusual for me. It is. It’s a novelty, isn’t it? Absolutely,
Dr Natalie Green 02:13
you’re a post traumatic growth coach. What led you to be doing this line of work? Oh, you want a long story or a short story, a story that the story that we need to hear? Yeah. So I have a background in clinical and health psychology, and I always prided myself on giving my work, everything I had, I always give 1,000%
Dr Natalie Green 02:43
and absolutely loved working. And I know this sounds awful, but in the in the trauma field, because I wanted to make a difference and help people make sense of the things that they’d been through, and then try and work how to get better in inverted commas, and I did that for years and years, and I followed all the all the guidebooks, and did everything evidence based practice. I just found it was really quite frustrating that it took so many years to heal from trauma,
Dr Natalie Green 03:19
and I just felt like I was a bit stuck,
Dr Natalie Green 03:23
because it was very much around cognitive behavior therapy at the time, as I learned that and then learned how to, you know, make people go over and over into exposure therapy and retell their story and go over and over and over, because that’s what We did back then, it’s exactly how we did it. And then I had my own significant trauma back 2011
Dr Natalie Green 03:50
And that probably, I’d have to say, changed everything, because then it gave me that deeper layer of understanding that you know doesn’t mean that if you’re a therapist or coach and you haven’t been through trauma, that you don’t get it. Just gave me that deeper insight, and I felt it in my bones, basically in my nervous system, everything. And I thought, Oh, why do I need to take years to get better. That’s not okay. So then I went down a rabbit hole and got more into the coaching and accelerated methods and developed my own trauma method
Dr Natalie Green 04:31
and tried it on myself, because I thought, nope, I need to do that for me. And I just felt like I
Dr Natalie Green 04:39
going over and over and over something, and telling the story wasn’t helpful,
Dr Natalie Green 04:46
and I felt that there had to be more than living in the trauma and trying to come out of it. So I really shifted into
Dr Natalie Green 04:55
not just surviving, but starting to look at thriving. What did that mean?
Dr Natalie Green 05:00
Learn to actually make sense of what I’d been through. Help clients make sense of what they’d been through, but work out what it would take to really move out of that and into post traumatic growth. So, long story, but that’s how I got into post traumatic growth, and I really did the deep inner work that I knew I needed, and then was able to help my clients, and they could get transformations and breakthroughs so much quicker in a matter of, you know, a couple of months maximum, or even a full day that would help them clear their nervous system of what they’d been carrying and move forward.
Dr Natalie Green 05:44
I love that. And you said it’s awful, but it’s not because we’re all here with a gift to do something, and that’s not awful. It’s a gift, and you’re passionate about it because, you know it works. So I know you know that, but I just wanted to it just stood out to me. And I guess it’s that, you know, people sometimes will judge Well, you know, you’re doing this, and often as a therapist, it’s like you are working with people and holding them in their darkest days, yeah. And to then say that, you know, I love this work. I’m passionate about this work almost feels like this disconnects like, how can you like, being with people in pain? It’s like, no. But as you said, I I do believe
Dr Natalie Green 06:31
that Paul tall poppy syndrome, that I do have a gift, yeah, being able to sit with people and help them when they’re ready to move out of that and and I feel very blessed to be able to do that, because I’ve I have really heard, there’s nothing I haven’t heard. And being able to sit with people in that is is really powerful.
Samantha Riley 06:58
Absolutely. Back when I was a personal trainer, back in around 2010, one of the groups of people that I would work with was actually the police force, because they have to go through a lot of training, and they had to go through like shield training and and I used to help them to be able to get through these different things. And there was one client I had, I won’t say a name, but I she, I trained her twice a week, and I trained her for years. And there was one day that she came and she walked in, I just looked at her face. I went, Oh, my God, are you okay? And she just burst into tears. She said, I’ve just pulled like, I’ve just had to go to a scene where a little two year old was run over by the grandfather because he didn’t see her. And I, you know, I just took her aside, and at the time, you know, I didn’t say anything at the time, but I was like, why would you do a job like that where it’s just, you know, because she’d tell me all of these horrific stories of things that had happened. And one day, she said to Sam, like, you don’t understand. Like, I’m making a real difference. It hadn’t occurred to me until she said it in plain words, like, these are special people that are there because they care so deeply, and it’s just so special. Yeah, and thank you for sharing that. And I did a lot of my work,
Dr Natalie Green 08:14
really with with emergency services and police who’d been through such significant trauma. And yeah. And I, actually, I don’t really talk about this often, but you know, this is we’re here.
Dr Natalie Green 08:27
And I actually worked at Port Arthur for a year after the massacre. Wow, yeah. So that was
Dr Natalie Green 08:36
yeah, like nothing. You can’t even be, I can’t even imagine that. But to be able to be there and help people do my best to help people through that like that was, yeah, one of the biggest turning points of my career that I thought not things have to be done differently. Wow, keep doing things this way. So yeah, initial, yeah, and even that, and I’m just hearing you say that. I hope it’s okay if I ask you a couple of questions as well that hearing in your role as a personal trainer, in your hearing, and this lady was coming in and trusted you and told you that, and you know, she would come in and talk to you when you hear people’s stories, a bit like hairdressers who hear everyone’s deepest, darkest secrets.
Samantha Riley 09:32
What does that do to you and your nervous system now that you’re carrying a little bit of that person’s story? Yeah. Wow. So I’ve never been asked this is really interesting, because I really deeply feel other people’s feelings. I feel other people physically. So if someone, you know, if someone comes in, I can feel straight away where they’re feeling it, and I can feel it in my body, where they’re feeling.
Samantha Riley 10:00
In their body, I’m quite in tune that way. So when I hear those stories, I can be awake for nights at a time just thinking about them.
Samantha Riley 10:11
I’d heard something just last week about someone that’s not a friend of mine, that’s not part of my family, and I was still awake all night, and just like, Oh my God, I hope they’re okay. And how I wonder how the family is feeling. And I just get so caught up. And I when I lived in a different state, I had the most beautiful Kinesiologist and and like, I guess, healing kind of practitioner. And she used to say to me all the time, Sam, you have to learn how to put up a force field around you. Because she says, sometimes you come in and there is so much black energy like around you. And she said, and it’s not yours, but you just take on so much stuff. Gosh, where have we gone in this podcast already? I think that they’re the things as a business owner
Dr Natalie Green 11:06
that we find that people you know, whether you’re a coach, professional business owner, if you are someone who feels deeply the same as I do, then you hear people’s stories, and it doesn’t just go in one ear and out the other, some part of it stays somewhere in your nervous system, and each thing builds up and builds up and builds up. So even though I work with a lot of business owners who come in and they might be stuck or exactly as you said, you’re noticing all these things going on and this change of business owners not wanting to be seen, or there’s they’re stuck because of some reason, and they’re not really sure why. And I think that one of the things that we don’t acknowledge, if I said, Oh, well, you know, do you have any trauma? They’d go, No, I haven’t been through anything traumatic. And they’re very quick to discount anything they’ve been through. Well, you know, I didn’t see someone die in front of me or murdered, you know, whatever. And we think of it as what we would term a big T trauma.
Dr Natalie Green 12:17
But it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t have to be major. If you have heard other people’s stories, you’re a good listener, or you’ve been through the challenges of being a business owner in the last five years, in particular, 10 years, but most likely in the last five years, then you how you are carrying significant anxiety, distress, stress, pressure in your nervous system that is definitely impacting you, and that might be a little T trauma, but doesn’t matter.
Dr Natalie Green 12:58
It’s not a competition about who’s had the most trauma. It’s like, let’s actually acknowledge that we are carrying stuff that probably isn’t ours, and until we can learn how to let go of that, or make sense of it, get aware of it and work out a way to process it properly, we aren’t going to get the results that we want in our business or in our life. Oh, my goodness. I’m so glad you touched on that, because I like trauma is something that we’ve heard about quite a lot in recent years. And I’ll be brutally honest, I used to think, Oh, my God. Like, how can all these people have trauma? Like,
Samantha Riley 13:37
I didn’t see that little girl get run over. I didn’t I haven’t seen a burning body, you know, that’s been in a car accident. I haven’t had a parent die like I don’t have trauma. How can all these people have trauma? But it’s only just recently what I’ve realized it is, and from the way you described it, tell me if I’m wrong, we’ve all been through trauma, because every single one of us that’s alive went through some pretty awful stuff back in 2020, some worse than others. Some people might not even acknowledge how it’s affected them, and it may have affected everyone in different ways. But let’s face it, it’s not just that. It’s coming off the back of that. You know, we’re in this financial crisis. And again, there’s people that say, oh, you know, we can, we can create our own reality. And yes, I believe that. But also, let’s have empathy for the people that don’t know how to do that, that don’t understand that, that the single parents at home trying to pay the rent, the the couples that you know have got children with anxiety, like the some of the stories I’ve heard with with children. Someone told me the other day that their 12 year old had come to them and said he wanted to commit suicide. I’m like, oh my god, at 12, I didn’t even know what suicide was. Like. There’s some big stuff going on out there, and I think that it’s almost.
Samantha Riley 15:00
Like this gaslighting or bypassing that other people aren’t out there having a really hard time, even if you’re in control, and understanding that we can create our reality. Oh, absolutely. I think that you know, you alluded to 2020, let’s talk about the elephant in the room that
Dr Natalie Green 15:21
anyone who was alive in 2020, lived through covid, the pandemic, and I honestly believe that changed everything for all of us. Whether you are, you know, you’ve got the vaccination, you’re an anti vaccine. It doesn’t matter, irrelevant. You were impacted by covid,
Dr Natalie Green 15:43
and that is something that
Dr Natalie Green 15:47
everyone went through together. So that’s that community trauma impact.
Dr Natalie Green 15:53
We had that significant uncertainty
Dr Natalie Green 15:57
and that anxiety that rises up about, are we going to get something that we don’t really know anything about? And you know, there’s a lot of people, obviously, that have their own very strong views. And I’m not here to talk about a view either way. That’s not it’s irrelevant to the conversation. Irrelevant. It’s more that if you were alive, then you and your family and your loved ones were significantly impacted. Let’s look, you know, I had a son who was in Year 12 and a daughter in year 10. Oh, wow. I can’t imagine what those year twelves went I mean, like, I understand everyone, but year 12 is such a special year, yep, and they spent it in their room. They would get one hour, if that, a week from their teachers in year 12, and they did the rest on their own. We spend all our all our time in the years leading up to that, stop gaming, get off your computer. Do the interact with people, and then suddenly they’re in a situation where they’re living in their room,
Dr Natalie Green 17:06
and if someone in the house might have got covered, they were isolated even more. And all of that stuff when, when we’re human beings and we thrive on connection, has an impact.
Dr Natalie Green 17:19
And all the things that the patterns that we’d been setting up for their behaviors of not being online, were just completely contradicted, thrown out the window, and it was a very uncertain time. And if you imagine if you had kids that started kindergarten
Speaker 1 17:40
who didn’t get that socialization in the same way, their basic foundational learnings in the same way. Like, how do we make sense of that for a generation coming through like, I look, you know, it was at the other end of the spectrum where we had no 18 graduations were so different, all of that. They missed that whole part. Yeah, and they went to uni and they did it. My son did his degree in his bedroom. Wow, got his degree. Did really well, high distinctions, fantastic. But he didn’t go to uni and meet anyone, wow. And you know, those things have an impact. Yeah, if you’re a business owner and you had a thriving in person business, suddenly you had to go online. Opened up a whole new world where we didn’t have the skill set. Yes, if we weren’t already online, thankfully, you know, you and I were already doing things online, but not everyone was no and changes things it does. And what I’m seeing now these years later, are people that are still struggling with the confidence, because they feel like, well, they’re a fraud, because they just kind of made it up as they went along. You and I had a bit of a laugh before we started recording that. You know, even though both of us have been in business for a really long time, we’re both just making it up all day, every day. But absolutely, but, but we like, that’s just a like. We’ve been doing that every single day for 2030, years. But people that that went through that in covid, they’re still feeling like, really like massive imposters. They’re struggling with confidence still. They’re holding themselves back. This stuff, like I said right at the beginning of the episode. For some people, it’s lurking in their blind spot. For some people, they’re completely aware that it’s happening. For both of those two scenarios, it is impacting them and their bodies in the way that they’re showing up in exactly the same way, or is it different?
Dr Natalie Green 19:50
Great question. I think that ultimately it’s still impacting them in very similar ways. But.
Dr Natalie Green 20:00
The way that they would recognize it would be, like I said earlier, with a big T trauma versus a little T trauma, they probably wouldn’t see themselves as being in that category. But the reality is that level of anxiety that not being sure of something leads to imposter syndrome, and even if you are thriving in business normally and all of this stuff changed, you are showing up differently anyway, because you’ve had to pivot, you’ve had to rethink things, because the landscape has changed. So you know you’re over giving or people pleasing, or self sacrificing and charging less, or having poorer boundaries, because you have to get more clients when that hasn’t you know, prior to this,
Samantha Riley 20:56
you had plenty of clients. Yeah, yeah. Now things are changing. And, you know, we’ve been seeing it and talking about it a lot lately with other leaders in their industries, that everything’s changing, and you’ve got to stay ahead of the game, but that puts a lot of pressure on a nervous system. Yeah, well, now we’ve got, let’s call the next elephant in the room. Ai massive making people, you know, where we don’t have as much certainty of what the future is going to be now, because now we’re like, I was chatting to someone just this week. We’re like, you can’t put a five year plan in place. You can have a goal of where you want to be, but you actually can’t put the plan in place of how you’re going to get there, because we don’t know what it’s going to be like in in five years. So now we’ve got, we’re coming out. We’ve had, you know, we’ve had covid, financial crisis. Now we’ve got this uncertainty with AI that’s also making us move at such a fast speed. So nervous systems are like
Samantha Riley 21:57
all the time. So let’s talk about what needs to happen to make a change,
Dr Natalie Green 22:09
definitely. So the first thing I always say is to acknowledge it, because if we can’t actually have that level of awareness, then we’re, you know, forever ignoring it, and we’re never going to move forward. So it’s about, yes, the world is changing. Everything is happening at such a fast pace, and we need to learn, how do we regulate our own nervous system? How do we put some really good boundaries up, but strategies in place, so that. And I’m not talking about just, you know, learning to meditate, because let’s be honest, how many high achieving business owners are good at meditation? Are you? I? Actually, I don’t do it all the time. I go through periods of it.
Dr Natalie Green 23:02
But I also know, and this is funny, you know that it works, you know that it’s really good, and then all of a sudden, one day, like, oh my goodness, I haven’t actually done that for a couple of weeks or a couple of months, better get back into that. So it’s not about just knowing, is it? Because a lot of us know the things that need to be done Absolutely. Can you speak to that? Yeah. So really, it’s around carving out some time to put it like put it in your diary, and prioritize you, because you can’t pull from an empty cup. We know that, that when we’re over giving because we feel we need to. We’ve got the imposter syndrome happening, or things aren’t going the way we’d planned a part of our five year plan. Because things are changing, we need to carve out time to just, it might be five minutes. I’m not talking about two hours a day that no one has just to I do a lot of work around the three brains, our head, our heart and our gut, we know that each of those areas has its own neurons, and all those messages go to the brain, so they each serve a really clear purpose. The head brain is where we make our decisions, we think and we, you know, we’re overthinkers. If we’re got the imposter syndrome happening, we’re overthinking over analyzing a lot of the time. So we’re often stuck in our head. But when we’ve gone through such significant if you’ve had your own trauma and you’ve got unhealed trauma that is just lurking in the background, or you’ve been through significant stress and prolonged periods of stress, then all of those things are lurking there, and we know that we’re often in our head and
Dr Natalie Green 24:53
one, if not two of the other brains disconnect, so our heart brain is where we feel.
Dr Natalie Green 25:00
Things we get the emotions, but it’s also how we connect to people and have the relationships. And if we’re hiding because we’re embarrassed, or we’ve got imposter syndrome or something like that, then we’re not connecting with our heart because we’re doing whatever we can to keep ourselves safe, because that’s what we are hardwired to do, always keep ourselves safe, and our gut brain is where we hold our intuition, our knowing. Like you said, you just feel people so deeply because you are connected to your gut brain,
Dr Natalie Green 25:36
and those messages go up and down between the brains. And so we have the three brains, that triangular thing connecting all the time, and if something happens in order to keep ourselves safe, one disconnects. So you can just do a really basic body scan. It might be when you first get up for the day. It might be five minutes before you eat your lunch. It might be before bed, five minutes, where you just scan from the top of your head right down to the tip of your toes. Just check in with yourself to see. Where do I feel? Anything? Is there a little niggle? Is there? You know, butterflies in my stomach? Is there something? And you won’t get it perfect the first time. So each just practice, practice, practice, and just tune in. Where am I feeling? It might be, oh, my chest feels heavy. Oh, my head, I’ve got a headache. Oh, I feel funny in the tummy. Doesn’t matter. They’re all signs that something is going on. And if you can tune into that, you can then just do a bit of visualization where you say, Okay, where do I? Am I feeling it? What is it? Is it black and spiky? Is it red? Whatever it is, and move that energy around, just allow it to flow through your body.
Dr Natalie Green 26:54
And then, if it’s really uncomfortable, and you can make it grow bigger, but then shrink it down really quickly, and that gives you that sense of I’m in control, and have it flow through like I say, flow through you, like your bloodstream blowing through. And then you can send it on its way out, you know, let it go, pack its bag, send it off in a hot air balloon, anchor it to the bottom of the ocean, whatever feels right for you. And then just feel into that and let almost this beautiful light from outside shine in and come in through your heart space and feel your body with warmth. And just connect to that for a couple of minutes. And then it’ll take on a shape, it’ll have a color, or shape, whatever, and that focus on that symbol. And as you do that, just what am I thinking? So that’s the head, brain, what am I feeling the heart, brain, and what is my gut telling me? What do I really know that means for me? And that helps just reconnect your heart and your gut, brain, and then
Dr Natalie Green 28:04
that thing that you focused on will be a symbol, and you can park that symbol in your body somewhere. And anything positive that happens throughout the day, you can fill the symbol and connect to that symbol and say, Yeah, add that to the energy so it gives you that positive energy and starts to process it and allows you to reconnect the three brains. So there you go. That’s one way to do it, and it literally can be five minutes in a day. Do you feel, or is there any difference between just thinking about those things, and what does that mean to sort of journaling and going deeper? Yes. So rather than thinking, if we’re just thinking it through, it’s in your head, brain, yeah, that’s where, that’s where I was going. I was like, hang on a minute. We need to embody it. So it’s around, just going into it, closing your eyes, allowing yourself time to process that and connect to your body. And it might be that this takes a long time to do it because you’re so disconnected from one of those other brains do that you can write, you can journal, do free writing, so it just flows without the judgment. So it’s like, let that guard down, let your subconscious brain just let it flow. And the other thing that I absolutely love, which was a game changer for me in healing my trauma, is a thing called Tre. It’s trauma, intention, release exercises, and I can even send you a link if you want. There’s a free TR, it’s Tre. Course, if you look it up, it’s free, and it’s really amazing, because what we know is that when we go through some sort of trauma or significant stress, it’s held in our nervous system. And if, say, you know people, if you’ve had a car accident or when you give birth.
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Or you’ve had an operation or something like that. What happens afterwards is you shake. Your body shakes, yeah, and uncontrollably, absolutely uncontrollably, shakes. And what happens is that the beautiful, kind person who sees you shaking puts a nice, warm blanket around you, or gives you a hug or something,
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and that stops the tremoring. The tremoring is our body’s natural response for releasing, oh, we are
Dr Natalie Green 30:33
stopping our body doing its own thing, like you see an antelope if there’s a lion or something stalking it. And it, you know, you can see it shaking and shivering, and then it freezes, yep. And it might, you know, it might manage to escape or whatever. But then it shakes itself off a dog, a dog shakes itself off and off it goes again. If it gets stressed, same sort of thing. It’s that natural response, shake, shake, shake and move on. So tre is a process where we induce our own tremoring response, yep. And it starts to just gradually release. Oh, wow. Our any stored trauma. So you can do it really gently. And it’s, it’s amazing and a game changer, because it helps us regulate our own nervous systems. And you can go on, like I said, it’s a free training. There’s lots of people who are being trained in it around Australia, and they’re in, you know, most places they’d be, somewhere you are, there’s somewhere I am, and they can help you let go of stuff and know what parts of your body you’re carrying, your tension that might be stuck. So you know, people hold it across their shoulders or their back. And as a personal trainer, you would have seen that so many times, and you think, oh, people come in and their shoulders are right up, and they just need to loosen it. So you can just stand up and have have a bit of a shake, shake it out sort of thing, yeah, just do a couple of minutes of shaking it out. And that’s a stress release. Wow. So it’s powerful and really, really simple and helpful. Super helpful. So you mentioned sort of doing the scan through your body and really feeling into that. That’s to me, that sounds like a really great way to prepare for a day. What about where when we’re in the middle of something? So I don’t know. Let’s just say you said something, and it triggered me in a certain way, and all of a sudden I start, you know, panicking, and maybe my my brain goes off somewhere else and I can’t concentrate. Or, you know what I mean, like, we’re really in the middle of something. What is something that we could possibly do? PS, I’m not triggered at all at the moment, and I’m all good, but what is something that we could do? You know, at that moment? Yes, so I mean, really, one of the simple things you can do is just try and slow your breathing down. Because what happens is, we normally shallow breathe and breathe really quickly. So it’s more around just bringing that into our awareness. And I’ll give you a really simple thing that one of my girlfriends came up with that I absolutely love, is what we call time date stamping. So you can, basically, you just want to break that cycle and just interrupt it. Pattern Interrupt. So you just go, it’s whatever day it is, you know, it’s Friday, the day, the date, the time. It’s Friday, 24th of October, at 10:46am,
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and I’m, you know, at home in my office, and I’m safe just time, date and where you are, because that gets you out of all the stuff that’s going on, and calms your body down. And then it’s time, date stops any triggers or spiral that’s going on. And then you can start just trying to become aware of your breathing. You can do that. You know, there’s belly breathing, box breathing, there’s so many different things that you can do. Yeah, yeah. I love that. For all the people that are listening now, and the people in my world are so passionate, they are so skilled people that are really in their business to help the world, to get their message out to help people support people. I know that every single person that’s listening to this show is in business for all the right reasons. What is one message that you want to leave them with today? So let me just add a little bit extra so that they can play an even.
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Game of a few things that I love to talk about there. So I think for me, it’s around,
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don’t be afraid to be a tall puppy, to stand out. It is okay to stand out. It’s okay to do something different, to be that Trailblazer.
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And really it’s like, Don’t let anyone dim your light. Keep shining brightly, honestly, because the world needs more people who are willing to back themselves
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and so often, particularly over here in Australia, but I know it happens all over the world. We just acknowledge it. People are so quick to tear you down if you do something a bit different, but it’s okay. It’s wonderful to be different. It’s great to own. You know, walk your walk and walk your talk, and I’m doing a lot of talking lately around integrated leadership, that if you are carrying trauma or have been through adversity, which we’ve established today, most people have at some point,
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then it really is okay for you to be vulnerable and own that, But lead from a place of wisdom, rather than our wounds. Oh, yes, yeah, that we all have the wounds, and we need to do our own work to heal ourselves, and then we can lead the way by integrating things in that we fully embody it. We do it ourselves, and we live and breathe it the same as what I had to learn to do. And I think, you know, the trauma I went through was horrendous, but it was also a gift,
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because it taught it gave me that deeper layer of understanding that I never would have had, had I not been through something myself, and it made me do a better job
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at what I was doing, because it changed my acceptance of, yeah, trauma takes years to hear, to heal, because that’s crap. It doesn’t
Samantha Riley 37:13
Wow. Dr NAT green, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I’ve absolutely loved this episode. I’ve loved this conversation. As I said to you before I hit record, like, it’s time that we have these deeper conversations. And stop, put like, Stop, like, brushing this stuff under the rug, because just it dims our light, you know, when we’re trying to conform. And then that adds an old whole another layer of, oh my goodness. We’re like, Not only have I got all this stuff, but, you know, I don’t want to bring even more
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eyeballs to the fact that I’m different, or, you know, I’m standing up, or I don’t want someone to say this. So this has been amazing. Thank you so much for having me. What a wonderful conversation. I’ve loved it just before we finish up, for people that want to learn more about you and about what you do, where can people follow you? I know you’ve got a podcast. Yeah, I’ve got a podcast. So talk about tall poppies. It’s growing. Tall poppies thrive after trauma, and I’d love for you to check it out, and if, if anyone has a story that they feel confident, or they’d like to share of how they’ve been through adversity and come out the other side. I’d love to have them on as a guest my podcast as well. That’d be wonderful, because it’s I’m all about sharing our stories to make a difference and helping build that integrated leadership. And you can find me on Instagram at Dr NAT green, or Facebook, Dr Natalie green. They’re probably the main things. Love it. We’ll put all of those links in the show notes. Thank you again. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Thanks. Sam.
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