In a world that is becoming more interconnected, building community has never been more important. However, despite this, people are feeling more disconnected than ever before. Building a community is not just about being physically close or having shared interests. It is a process that involves bringing together relationships, aspirations, and values to build strong bonds and create unity.
In this episode of Influence by Design, we discuss the art of building community with Sunil Bhaskaran. Sunil is a speaker, mentor, author, and has over 30 years of business experience reaching an audience of over 200,000 business owners through his educational and networking events
Sunil shares how he uses Meetup to organize and facilitate community-building events. He believes Meetup is invaluable for building and nurturing communities, as it brings people together to connect and collaborate.
Sunil emphasizes the power of face-to-face interactions in building genuine connections. While social media can facilitate initial connections, meeting in person allows for deeper relationships to form. In his events, Sunil creates opportunities for participants to interact and engage with one another, fostering a sense of trust and camaraderie.
This episode is for you if you are seeking to build and foster community in your own life. Whether you are an entrepreneur, a leader within an organization, or simply someone who believes in the power of connection, the insights shared in this episode can guide your community-building journey.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL DISCOVER:
- Sunil’s global vision, and what he does every day to try and achieve it (02:09)
- Why Sunil has focussed on using Meetup (03:28)
- Hybrid events, online events, and in-person events – the benefits of each (08:15)
- Using events to build your email list (12:50)
- Top tips for building an audience (13:45)
- Running webinars vs. running networking events (17:23)
- How you can use Meetup to build your SEO (21:40)
- The pros and cons of using Meetup as a marketing tool (24:10)
QUOTES:
- “We discovered that as you do more events, it has an exponential effect on your search engine optimisation. Every time someone RSVPs your Meetup page, it’s like content being written on your website.” -Sunil Bhaskaran
- “Just like any marketing, you have to spend some time testing and refining the target markets until you get it right.” -Sunil Bhaskaran
- “My vision is to have 100 million joyful and successful entrepreneurs in the world. I spend every day on that, that’s what gives me life and passion.” -Sunil Bhaskaran
- “It doesn’t matter how much you’re spending; it matters what the return is.” -Samantha Riley
RESOURCES
WHERE TO FIND SUNIL BHASKARAN
- Website: https://sunilbhaskaran.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunilbhaskaranspeaker/
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ABOUT SUNIL BHASKARAN
Sunil Bhaskaran is a dynamic, globally-recognized speaker, mentor & author. He brings 30+ years of business experience to entrepreneurs. He has written 3 books & promotes to an audience of 200,000+ business owners for his educational & networking events. He has two degrees in both computer science & electrical engineering.
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Sunil Bhaskaran Snippet (00:00):
So you got to learn how to get those groups because if you don’t get those right groups, you’re gonna fail and probably failed miserably. And then you know basic marketing principles, having good copy, understanding your market, understanding that you want to keep your presentation short and sweet, hit three or four points, and they get to the q&a because the q&a I found this where people were largely unfamiliar with you, but have raised their hands and said, I’m interested in this topic.
Samantha Riley Intro (00:19):
Welcome to the Influence By Design Podcast. I’m Samantha Riley, authority positioning strategist for coaches and experts. If you’re ready to build a business that gives you more than just a caffeine addiction, and you dream of making more money, having more time, and having the freedom to be living your best life, then you’re in the right place, it’s time to level up.
Welcome to today’s episode of Influence By Design, I’m your host Samantha Riley. And today we’re going to talk about the art and science of building community. Now obviously, this is a conversation that I’ve had with many other people before because I’m very much about connections and building community. But this one’s just a little bit different.
So I’ve invited Sunil Bhaskaran who is a dynamic, globally recognized speaker, mentor and author. He brings 30 plus years of business experience to entrepreneurs. He’s written three books, he has an audience of over 200,000 business owners for his educational and networking events. He’s got two degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. And he is an absolute gem and minefield of actually minefields the wrong word, I was gonna say, like, a big mountain of knowledge. So welcome to the show. Sunil.
Sunil Bhaskaran (01:44):
I’ve been calling minefield, but my bad over time. So I understand.
Samantha Riley (01:48):
Yeah, it definitely was not what I was going for this.
Sunil Bhaskaran (01:53):
One, thank you for the kind introduction. And it’s a pleasure to be here. Absolutely
Samantha Riley (01:58):
I’m really looking forward to this conversation. Because last time we spoke, you really opened my mind to some different strategies, which we’re going to get into in just a minute. But I’d love you to share rather than sort of how you got here, let’s go somewhere different. Today, I’d love you to share. What’s your vision? Like, why do you do what you do?
Sunil Bhaskaran (02:16):
I love that question. Because it gets to the point. Yeah, let’s just go
Samantha Riley (02:20):
right there.
Sunil Bhaskaran (02:22):
And, I mean, people can find out about me on my website, etc. But the, you know, my vision is to have 100 million joyful and successful entrepreneurs in the world, globally by 2050. And, you know, I spend every day on that. And that’s what gives me life. And that’s what gives me passion. And that’s what brought me here on this podcast here with you today.
And you know, from that I’ve discovered meet up and Alignable, and how to make all of that work together in a very affordable way for the common man in the street, small business person who may not be able to afford a cab really figure out how to use some of the more sophisticated marketing out there that does work, but maybe out of their league right now.
So I became concerned about that out of my, my vision to have joyful and successful entrepreneurs in the world. So you know, yeah, so that’s my vision. I created it about eight years ago, and I still live it and to enjoy it, doing it with the people that I meet. So there you go.
Samantha Riley (03:24):
Love it. Love it. Love it. So that was your vision. What was the original, I guess, catalyst for you joining meetup? Like, was it something that you specifically did? Because you heard it was a strategy that could work? Was it just an experiment like many of us entrepreneurs do? How did you start to build your audience on meetup?
Sunil Bhaskaran (03:45):
Well, it started as an experiment, really, I mean, I like to experiment with different things to hear about in my client, a client of mine told me about it. And it piqued my interest because the founders started meetup.com out of 911. But it happened in New York City, when you had
Samantha Riley (04:00):
the error that I did not know that I did not know
Sunil Bhaskaran (04:03):
that it’s a fascinating story, because it continues to this day with the current meetup CEO. Because he wanted to connect people were not in connection or missing, be out of touch with with other people who are lost. Because a lot of people were lost in New York at that point. So they quickly circus platform for people to meet.
And it kept growing and growing and growing. And then they expand that the intention is to have people meet for different reasons for their hobbies, for business for dancing, relationships, groups, for hiking groups, they have all kinds of groups, they have almost 60 million people, I think now probably more like 80 million people by now on meetup and, you know, hundreds to 1000s of groups probably.
And, you know, so it’s a very affordable, cheap way for people to find events and for people to promote their groups and interest in their events that they want to, you know, More, do other people. Reasons? Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
So you know, so I got into it, I found out about it. And I started experimenting. And I quickly discovered that there were a lot of people who were giving up on meetup too soon, like, they will get engaged. And, you know, like a lot of people who do get engaged in things, they realize that it’s not that it’s not growing as fast as they wanted it to go. And then they gave up.
And I started a few groups. And I realized that people were coming to my groups who were coming from groups that were abandoned by their original organizers.
So I figured out that I was in a good market, and like to find markets like that, where, you know, if there’s a trend, people are giving up too soon, like an old mentor of mine, or if you find something that doesn’t work, try to make it work. So that it works for other people. And then you’ve got something to sell.
Good, I had something to sell, I started growing and it started growing, and it’s growing exponentially grew like like most things, they grow kind of like this. And then it started being exponential. So I suddenly had a lot of groups in the Bay Area in California, Silicon Valley, which were thriving and growing relatively rapidly.
And I figured out how to do good copy how to do intriguing events and intriguing groups. And I figured out a lot about meetup because I come from a computer science background. And I figured out that there were what we call side effects in their program, side effects, unplanned for good effects, that they weren’t even aware of what these effects were, in fact, when I met the meet up the cov, that was a good friend of mine. Now, he was totally surprised. It was a I was able to do with his system for small business people.
And you know, not genius, by any means. You can figure this out if you ever did computer science. I figured out how to do that kept growing. And then I met Michael Patrick, Bill blue, who was also having a set of groups that were specifically designed for business people. So we decided to combine our groups and found what you would call an oligopoly. almost close to a monopoly of meetup groups designed for me, for business people in the Bay Area, we pretty much dominate the Bay Area, with our meetup groups and small business. So even more exponentially together.
And then Bill, so meet his groups, Jake, gratefully to go over. And I did I decided to grow globally. And I’ll why was I surprised that this applying the same principles applied to in the Bay Area to all the cities across the North America and big cities in southeast Asian and India, etc, that I had the same experience. People wanted the same thing. They weren’t finding it in other meetup groups or other events. And he started coming to me. So that’s how it grew to 200,000 plus people right now.
Samantha Riley (08:07):
So you’re talking there about having meetup groups in your local area. But then you expanded into other areas? Did you go and run live events in those areas, or where they live? I don’t want to use the word virtual but they online meetup groups,
Sunil Bhaskaran (08:24):
originally, meetup had a policy where there was only you could only do in person that’s started laxing, that a little bit towards when COVID was beginning. And then when COVID struck by some happy accident, I met the CEO meet up in the Bay Area. And he looked at me and I took a look at him and I said, You better move into online events, I can show you how to do that. And we’ve consulted with them informally. And we did a worldwide seminar, to all meet up members and seeing going online and acidic in January, February of 2020 whenever it was. And that’s what it did.
They just went completely online at that point. And the same thing happened with this other platform Alignable which is only available unfortunately North America but met the CEO then I said you better guys guys, but to do the same thing, because meetups doing it. So they decided to do the same thing as well and move everything online. And I like to think that I was the guy who came up with the term hybrid event, which is a combination of an online event and the in person the event. And I said you can even do that. And I’ll teach everybody to do that.
So we started doing that. So meetup Now, up to this day, we do online events, you can do online events and promote those which makes it amazing because now you can promote your event to a group in China. Oh, well, not China because they have stricter control step can start a meetup group doesn’t grow very well. Yeah, but it’s an India entrepreneur in India we get entrepreneurs all over the world would come to my networking events, cetera that I run from this house, it’s very same room actually.
You know, it can get 100 people in the room. If it’s a startup and tech event, if it’s a small business, you bet you get about 4050 people showing up in any event, that includes an educational event that you run for your business. So we started doing events almost every week, almost every, almost every week, either for networking online, or for educational events.
So I hope I’m storing you guys in imagination as I’m speaking. Because as you do more events, what we discovered was it has an exponential effect on your search engine optimization. Business every time someone RSVPs one, your Meetup page, but one group. It’s kind of like content being written on your website. So it triggers Google. So imagine if you have like Mikey’s or hundreds of groups, and hundreds of people RSVP for events almost every day. So that creates an exciting buzz for the Google search engines to look at me going what’s going on with this Sunil guy? Yeah. Who’s
Samantha Riley (11:09):
this Sunil guy? What’s all this activity going on?
Sunil Bhaskaran (11:12):
Was activity going? You know, it’s a stupid machine that does this in the background, but it’s accumulating points for me.
Samantha Riley (11:21):
Let’s just take a pause here. What sort of events you mentioned that you had education events, networking events? What is the, I guess the context of your groups? And what do you do within those groups? Is it just networking? Is it Do you have speakers coming in? Are you running webinars? Or are you doing all of these, you know, different events?
Sunil Bhaskaran (11:44):
Yeah, Samantha, you know, it’s really all of the above. So we tend to focus on networking events, and educational events and panel events. When my startup at tech group still really liked the panel events that became very popular. Were some of the people, especially people who are taller, being romantic coaches, for example, for couples, you know, we tend to do smaller educational events.
And, you know, they would be short events, like about 20 minutes presentation, then they make an offer for the actual business. And then they go into a q&a. And people do really get engaged. And then you do a final offer at the end. And you can actually make business happen that way. For people who are not that expensive to make an offer for their business in front of the stage. We advocate people do offer a free consultation, which leads to a lot of free consultations, usually out of a group of 40. And then from there, you you make an upsell to your actual P program. When you sell just at a different time, obviously.
Samantha Riley (12:48):
Yeah, so I’m hearing that this is a really good way to build a list.
Sunil Bhaskaran (12:53):
Very good way. Yeah, you get an opt in list, we can you can actually collect emails, and we do online events, because you can actually collect the emails in a very affordable way through meetup, but they get registered in the Zoom registration link, and you get from there. And then you can add those people to the list, I just did a event, we had 100 opt ins.
And I think he did about six or eight consultations. 26 people showed up at the event, one line. And then I think he got one or two sales out of which the thing is average pricing is right 2500 or $1,000 each. So you know, that’s how you can make money if you if you run your event. So if you allow someone like me to promote you, you can make money that way as well.
Samantha Riley (13:42):
So what about for people who haven’t used meetup before or haven’t built an audience? What sort of tips can you can you give people to get started
Sunil Bhaskaran (13:52):
with your big first, don’t try to do it yourself. If you haven’t read about how to do it, you probably take you can, but you end up making a lot of fundamental mistakes. The first tip I would give is, you want to think about many groups where you post the same event.
So you have many groups from different diverse communities that you’d like to have in your event. So you could have one group that is for women entrepreneurs, for example, another group, men entrepreneurs who are interested in a particular topic, and you have all these groups, and they come to the same event.
The reason we do that is because it’s kind of like it’s a bad metaphor, so bear with me, but it’s kind of sending out under itself. If you have hundreds of groups, sending out hundreds of fishing trawlers to different parts of the ocean to gather fish and bring fish canning factory we don’t kill up people that
Samantha Riley (14:49):
we don’t put them into troller but it’s just a metaphor.
Sunil Bhaskaran (14:53):
Just a metaphor. It’s a bad one, but you get the idea. It’s everyone coming to the same place the same event. So you don’t have to do several years. That’s, you could a lot of our clients just wanted to invest in it teach, I got them out of great and had the same PowerPoint.
For each event modification, you can do the same PowerPoint, it’s amazing how people, some people will come to the same event, but they need to hear the same message a couple of times before they buy. That’s one tip is to have many groups.
Also, same event. And then you got to learn, like what I did was to learn what are the best target markets to use on each of these groups, which I figured out through testing, because meetup gives you 15 options to define your target market.
So it’s 15 populations that you can target. So people who are interested in knitting, you have a population for that people are interested in rearing llamas, you have an, you may not want rocket to those.
But if you’re a business person and you you want to hit business people they’re like, but 1213, almost 25 target markets that I use in different groups. To know these are the best target markets, I found people at bay will show up. And people are interested in business related webinars as an example. And I’ve discovered the same topics for populations for people who are interested in teaching about romance, or so on and so forth.
And it’s for startup and tech, the I got a whole set of target markets for those that have identified Amida. So you got to learn how to get those, those groups, because if you don’t get those right groups, you’re gonna fail and probably fail miserably. So you got to pick your groups, you got to have many groups, you got to pick up missions.
And then you know, basic marketing principles, having good copy, understanding your market, understanding that you want to keep your presentation short and sweet. It three or four points, and then get to the q&a, because the q&a I found is where people were largely unfamiliar with you but have raised their hands and said, I’m interested in this topic. We want to engage with you, but you don’t want to give too much. Just give the right amount of intrigue, and then get them to buy a product or buy. Org sign up for your free consultation. Yeah.
Samantha Riley (17:23):
So I’m just having it. I’m just listening to what you’re saying. You’re talking essentially, and I could be right or wrong. So I guess this is a question I’m not telling you. Are you talking about really essentially running a mini webinar and a q&a as your events.
Sunil Bhaskaran (17:40):
Most of the time, that’s what I do. It’s what directly sells at. So I would say about now about when I promote people, it’s about 99% webinars that we do. But from time to time, I’ll do a panel. And then from time to time I’ll run a networking event. them is because I get a lot more people showing up at those events. It’s not a selling about the kind of people kind of know if it’s an education that’s going to be assigned.
Some people do show up for that. But the networking events are where I really build a larger email list. And from this email list, I put it in my old proprietary email system. And I invite them to other events that I do, that are also interest because they’re networking, they want to definitely improve their business and possibly develop their own lifestyle choices as well do you want to improve on all that?
So you can still market to them. But these people have raised their hands, they’re interested in you, they come to a bet. It’s a networking event, albeit but still, they kind of know you. And so now you’re there in your system, and you can market them to other things as well. So that’s why I do a combination. Doctors, webinars, but webinars, less networking events and panel effects swap.
Samantha Riley (19:02):
Yeah. Do you ever run live events anymore? Have you gone back to live events or you’ve stayed completely in the online space? And nowadays,
Sunil Bhaskaran (19:09):
I’m looking at doing bigger events with some Ittsan you know, bigger, more sophisticated marketing, but that but I’m promoting other people now. It’s just a personal choice, you know, because I’ve done events for like 30 years now. Samantha will man going into the 60s and wanting to take it a little easier on top being so let you I got a deep basal voice. i Yes, rested more. I’m not gonna cheat.
But, you know, I enjoy promoting other people and teaching them how to use this meetup directly by actually seeing how they can actually sell without having to set up their own groups. So now I do events for other people. They do the webinars, they do the presentation and they make money and I make a commission on the back end. Yeah, I mean, I still would like to do it the bad from time to time because I enjoy doing it from time to time. Yeah, so I do it from time to time, but mostly from other people these days to like 200,000 people.
Samantha Riley (20:08):
Yeah, that’s great. That’s so good. So this meetup helps you to build your list, build your audience, build, I guess, a group of people that essentially are interested in your product, whether or not they buy from you, they’re still, they’ve already put their hand up, and they said, I’m interested in this product.
It helps you to build your SEO ranking or your search engine optimization. It sounds like it’s super, super amazing. How does it compare to other forms of marketing? Like, what are you seeing as the I mean, it sounds like it’s ticked all the boxes. But can you take us deeper into how this compares?
Sunil Bhaskaran (20:48):
I’m gonna be very honest and transparent about this. Because you know, you have to be in marketing, because no marketing systems perfect. You gotta look at the pros and cons for each one. But I would say, you know, the pros for I’ll certainly talk about the cons.
So, because I want you all to have a balanced viewpoint, this Yeah, certainly, it’s affordable. And stuff, it costs me afforda, hundreds of groups that I have approximately $10,000 in, let’s just say about $12,000 Just be on the safe side per year, when my mark, and I only use meetup in the past to market myself and healthy, six figure income out of debt, US stops. Yeah, and you know, at is this now, so it’s affordable.
And the other benefits are your SEO is also more affordable. And I would see in some ways more effective. Because you know, when especially when the way I teach you how to do it, I combine when people come to me, I help them get a presence on meetups with meetup groups, but also a presence on Alignable and a presence on LinkedIn. And you have a LinkedIn presence.
But the thing is, you know, most SEO thrives on what’s called crosslinking. For me familiar with you have crossings between various websites, cetera. So imagine each website that you have from your five groups, if you start up at top meetup groups, bunches like 12 different websites, then we have a LinkedIn and Alignable profile.
Those are like that, you could see 14 properties that you have one line, and if all those properties across leap in your name is common, then you have if you’re a romantic coach, you have romance and seduction and whatever else that’s of interest to your market. And it’s all crosslink.
And everyday, people signing up for events or hosting a comic, whatever. All that creates what’s called user generated content automatically, which increases your profile. Now, it’s not guaranteed, you’re going to get first page, like I got the first page quite often, especially in my early days. But an interesting thing happened for me and Bill, we discovered that we were very populous that very game very much in demand as speakers for the marketing world. Because people in Malaysia would do a search on marketing consultants in Silicon Valley.
And we would show up because not our websites show up, or meetup groups would show up here. So people in Nestle and BMW got intrigued by us, because they kept seeing our meetups show up and said, Well, these two people were doing events in Silicon Valley, they must be of interest to us. And so we got hired, paid to fly out to China to Malaysia to do speaking gigs. And so if you’re interested in speaking, this is not a bad way to do it.
Because it’s transparent people can see that you have a community interested in hearing you speak. Yeah, your events there. And it becomes slightly less of a, of an effort to hire you. So we started getting speaking gigs, your SEO groups. So those are some of the benefits of that. I won’t go through all the benefits.
Let’s go through the cons. Yeah. So the cons are that you know, if you’re doing Facebook ads and you got a lot if you’ve got a pretty decent budget has to be a high budget and the dead bury some people have claimed you can do it for 1000 bucks a month. Or the more honest I think let’s say more like $10,000 a month. And you know, you got to pay money in order to make more money.
You have a good budget, I would just stick with Facebook. I wouldn’t do meetup because you’re going to get better bang for your buck. At a targeting you can you can you may have to spend a lot of money but your return on investment at the higher rate of investment and you’re doing is going to be much higher.
But if you don’t have that much liquidity in your bank account for your business, then Meetup is not a bad place to start. So you know, not everybody and meetups gonna buy In fact, a lot of people come to check you out, but they’re not committed. Yeah, but 5% of them are fairly committed. And this is debris. If you have a high price point, which is 2000, or $10,000, I would have people show up in my meetup events, especially when I did a personal event online. And I can identify them do the guys who want to take me out for lunch.
And they will, you know, hang out till the end, when it talked to me more in private. And then at the end of the lunch, or the next Zoom meeting, they write me a check. For 10,000, even $50,000 wasn’t uncommon. You know, if you have high price points, and you low budget, you can make a fair amount of money. And you know, and I’m not guaranteeing anything, obviously, you got to find out but that’s unrefined.
So you know, the cons are for against beat up is you know, if you have a lot of, if you have a high budget, you’re probably going to be better off with Facebook already do it Facebook and doing well, I would continue doing that same just stick their stick there, you’re going to do really well why rock the boat. If you want to, you know, expand another channel, and you have spare cash. And you have a couple of admins to can do that for you then try me out.
But we’ll have to. Yeah, I am big very drastically, honestly, as you can tell. And the other cons are that, you know, like, like any marketing, you may have to spend some time testing and refining the groups, because you might discover your first events, especially if you do it by yourself, maybe you lower than this. But you have to test and refine your target markets until you get it right.
Samantha Riley (26:39):
Well, that’s not really any different to any marketing channel whatsoever, right? Generally,
Sunil Bhaskaran (26:45):
you’re exactly. Yeah, yeah. Disadvantages to meet up as you know, you will have to know which target markets to select. I mean, I got to be at a base of those but, but on Facebook, you have a finer level of selecting your target markets and digging deeper. You don’t have them on meetup or simplify. But you get what you pay for.
Your starting up, you know, and you don’t have a high budget and meetup still a better option. Yeah. Then Facebook, for example. Yeah. And I’m not rocking Facebook, by the way, as you can tell. I’m trying to be really fair about this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the same applies to LinkedIn, if you have good thing going in LinkedIn, if you have good budget for it.
I know many executive coaches, and consultants do very well on LinkedIn, or Facebook marketing, or even Google Marketing. But it be a lot of money, but they make a lot of good return on investment. I know an executive coach in New York, who spends at least 100, grand and marketing through Facebook and Google, but she makes $7. In return, she knows her numbers.
Samantha Riley (27:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say it doesn’t matter how much you’re spending, it matters what the return is. Because if you can put $1 into a machine every day and get out to then I will just keep putting that dollar in over and over and over.
Sunil Bhaskaran (28:00):
Yeah, yeah. And it makes sense to do it that way. So there’s ROI is what you got to pay attention to and your liquidity factor in your business. Yeah. So you know, if you’re good liquidity, and you want to go anywhere, invest more, by all means go do Google, Facebook and hire a data mining expert, you’ll probably do a lot better than I could. But you know, if you have a low budget, and you’re stuck, especially if you’re starting out, and you don’t have a good brand for yourself, then meetups not a bad way to do it.
Samantha Riley (28:33):
Yeah, I think it’s a great way to build an audience. I’ve loved what you talked about. Yeah. Now for people that have been listening to this Sunil and they want to stay connected. How can they do that?
Sunil Bhaskaran (28:42):
Well, you can go and apply to have a session with me and started very terrible. It’s not like running up for US citizenship. But you know, it’s I know, because I did that. But successfully. Congratulations. No, it was very much it was 20 years ago.
But, you know, webinar audience done. So you.com. So webinar audience done for you.com. And you can go there, and it explains what I do and and as a free session, you don’t have to be for be at the blog for it with me. And I will do customized sessions for you. I’ll ask you some questions and figure out if this is if the meetup approach is going to make sense for you. And you could do it. And it’s about a 30 minute session, I think in da w the 45 Minute very Max, and I’ll be able to tell you that and what it will cost you and how it works. And then we’ll be off and running off to that.
And most people are surprised at how affordable it really is do it. And I won’t mention the price because it could vary. But the lowest mark did you have to invest $500 From my costs working with you and it’s typically a 10 to 20% Commission. On any sales you make true my efforts with you on meetup will not show that but if you’re interested in you Want to pursue this you can go to webinar audience done for you.com Apply for a session with me. And I’ll tell you the truth about whether this will work for you or not.
Samantha Riley (30:09):
I love that. A marketer that tells the truth. There you go. I’ve heard it right here folks know where else can go wrong? No, absolutely, absolutely. I was I was having a bit of fun there. I love what you’ve talked about today. It’s it’s sounds like a really awesome opportunity for people to start to build their, their audiences.
And I think that that is something that, especially moving into this world that is fueled by AI to build a network of people that surrounding us is going to be our point of difference. Because it’s, you know, when robots are talking to robots, sure, you know, it’s your audience and your network. That’s going to be your point of difference. So I love what you shared. Sunil, thanks so much for coming and talking. And of course, if you want to book a session with Sunil, you can get all the links for today’s episode over at influenced by design. podcast.com Sunil, thanks so much for sharing with us today. Really appreciate it having you here on the show.
Sunil Bhaskaran (31:12):
Pleasure is all mine. Thank you very much for having me.
Samantha Riley (48:23):
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